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>>>From jewishst@acs.ucalgary.ca Tue Feb 27 02:57:13 1996
>>Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 00:34:22 -0700 (MST)
>>From: JSA Calgary 
>>
>>Dear Friend,
>>
>>The Call For Votes (CFV) for the proposed "white power" music
>>newsgroup has been posted to UseNet's
>>
>>news.announce.newgroups
>>news.groups
>>alt.politics.nationalism.white
>>alt.politics.white-power
>>alt.skinheads
>>
>>Note the newsgroups to which it was _not_ posted.
>>
>>Here's what Canada's George Burdi, of the neo-Nazi Heritage
>>Front, had to say about this vote, on February 21, on his
>>RESISTANCE mailing list:
>>
>>   "There is a call for votes
>>   coming on rec.music.white-power in the next week
>>   or so, and you will be notified in a special issue of
>>   RREN exactly what to do.  FOLLOW THE
>>   INSTRUCTIONS TO THE LETTER.  Let me be
>>   perfectly blunt and state that we have more than
>>   enough "net-nazis" to win this thing hands-down.
>>   But every one of you must vote YES!  And just
>>   voting yes means nothing unless you do it properly.
>>   So you have been forewarned.  The instructions
>>   are coming to your email box soon, and they
>>   are not complicated.  Just follow them as told,
>>   and we will have a WP music newsgroup finally!"
>>
>>If Mr. Burdi's confidence disturbs you, please give this
>>letter the _widest_ possible distribution, and help us deliver
>>the largest NO vote in the history of UseNet.
>>
>>The creation of the group rec.music.white-power, proposed by
>>noted net-nazi Milton Kleim, has provoked some interesting,
>>and sometimes insulting, arguments in news.groups, the forum
>>for the discussion of such new group proposals.
>>
>>The attempt to establish a foothold within mainstream UseNet
>>should be viewed as precisely what it is: an attempt to
>>validate a political agenda, and a genre of "music," which
>>promote hatred based purely on religious and cultural grounds.
>>
>>Although the standard procedure for proposing a new music
>>group would mandate posting the Request For Discussion (RFD)
>>to UseNet's music groups, Mr. Kleim quote deliberately did not
>>do this. That is the first pointer we have to his real
>>intention: mainstream validation of his political agenda.
>>
>>The second pointer offered by Mr. Kleim is this: that he _did_
>>post the RFD to the so-called "white power" newsgroups, and
>>other venues relating to politics. That clearly established
>>his purpose, which had nothing whatsoever to do with music.
>>
>>Be that as it may, a simple loathing for racial supremacists
>>and Nazis is not, in the UseNet tradition, sufficient reason
>>to reject the proposal.
>>
>>Such a rejection should be based upon the answer to two
>>questions:
>>
>>1. Is the "namespace" appropriate? I.e., Does the purpose of
>>the proposed group fit within the purpose of the hierarchy to
>>which it would be added?
>>
>>2. Is there a _need_ for the proposed new group?
>>
>>In response to #1, consider Mr. Kleim's tactics - he did NOT
>>advise rec.music users of the proposal. He DID advise those in
>>politically oriented "white power" groups. In short, Mr. Kleim
>>himself answered the first question by demonstrating a
>>political purpose. The answer to question #1 is "No, the group
>>does _not_ belong within the "recreational" framework. If it
>>belongs anywhere, it belongs in a political hierarchy!
>>
>>With regard to #2: Although Mr. Kleim and other proponents of
>>the "white-power" group were asked, over a period of a month,
>>to provide data which would demonstrate, beyond a reasonable
>>doubt, that discussions concerning "white power" music tended
>>to dominate other newsgroups, for instance, alt.rock-n-roll,
>>alt.politics.white-power, alt.skinheads, RESISTANCE Mailing
>>List, etc., neither Mr. Kleim nor his compatriots produced a
>>single shred of evidence in support of this contention. In
>>short, Mr. Kleim failed to demonstrate that "white-power"
>>music was a hot topic in other newsgroups, and thus, should be
>>granted its own mainline newsgroup.
>>
>>Further, Mr. Kleim could, at any time, without a vote, without
>>discussion, create "alt.rock-n-roll.white-power." Neither Mr.
>>Kleim, nor any of the other Nazis on the net, ever did this.
>>If his sole concern was the creation of a white-power music
>>group, _or_ if there was a legitimate _need_ for such a group,
>>then it could have been created, years ago.
>>
>>If you agree with me, please register your vote. In order to
>>do that, send a message to: music-vote@sub-rosa.com
>>
>>The content of the message should read:
>>
>>    I vote NO on rec.music.white-power
>>
>>and nothing else.
>>
>>Do _not_ vote twice - that would constitute voting fraud.
>>
>>Here is the complete CFV:
>>
>>                     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
>>               unmoderated group rec.music.white-power
>>
>>Newsgroups line:
>>rec.music.white-power   Lyrics, albums, performers, enjoyment of the
>genre.
>>
>>Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 18 Mar 1996.
>>
>>This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Please
>address any
>>questions about the proposal to the proponent.
>>
>>Proponent: Milton John Kleim, Jr 
>>Votetaker: Michael Handler 
>>
>>RATIONALE: rec.music.white-power
>>
>>There is no appropriate newsgroup for discussion of White Power
>music, a
>>phenomenon which is international in scope.  Persons who have an
>interest
>>in this genre of music have no appropriate venue on USENET in which
>to
>>discuss this controversial topic.  Other rec.music groups' topics
>are too
>>dissimilar, and many of their participants are in no way receptive of
>>posts about this heated topic.  Some discussion of White Power music
>>occurs on alt.skinheads and alt.politics.white-power, but is
>inappropriate
>>there due to the former's mostly lifestyle-oriented matters, and the
>>latter's largely political nature.  Rec.music.white-power will
>prevent the
>>"intrusion" of fans into other, more vaguely-defined, newsgroups,
>where
>>they will not be welcomed.  Discussions would necessarily be free and
>>open, due to the topic's controversial nature.  This group should be
>>unmoderated because a moderator could exercise undue control over one
>>viewpoint's postings.
>>
>>CHARTER: rec.music.white-power
>>
>>All issues relating to the genre known as White Power music, since
>it's
>>inception until the present, covering all languages and
>nationalities of
>>performers, and all themes of pieces.
>>
>>Rec.music.white-power is an unmoderated newsgroup for the
>entertaining
>>and enlightening discussion of revolutionary new forms of rock,
>country,
>>and other sub-genres having racist/nationalist themes.  Both
>supporters
>>and opponents will find the group educational and intriguing.
>>
>>Potential topics will relate to the origin, development, and
>>dissemination of White Power music; to the artistic composition and
>>performance of the music; and to the personal opinions and
>perceptions of
>>those who enjoy particular bands and performers, and pieces.
>>
>>END CHARTER.
>>
>>HOW TO VOTE:
>>
>>Send E-MAIL (posts to a newsgroup are invalid) to:
>>
>>    music-vote@sub-rosa.com
>>
>>Please do not assume that just replying to this message will work.
>>Check the address before you mail your vote.  Your mail message
>>should contain one and only one of the following vote statements:
>>
>>    I vote YES on rec.music.white-power
>>    I vote NO on rec.music.white-power
>>
>>You may also vote ABSTAIN or CANCEL but these are not counted as
>valid
>>votes for the total count.
>>
>>If your mail software does not indicate your real name, please also
>>include the following statement and add your name (on the same line).
>>
>>    Voter name:
>>
>>IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES:
>>
>>Standard Guidelines for voting apply.  One person, one vote.  Votes
>>must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker.  Anonymous,
>>forwarded or proxy votes are not valid.  Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI
>>forms are considered to be anonymous votes.
>>
>>Vote counting is automated.  Failure to follow these directions may
>>mean that your vote does not get counted.  If you do not receive an
>>acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker
>>about the problem.  It's your responsibility to make sure your vote
>>is registered correctly.  Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of
>>the most recent valid vote.  Addresses and votes of all voters will
>>be published in the final voting results post.
>>
>>The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of
>>persons who would read a proposed newsgroup.  Soliciting votes from
>>disinterested parties defeats this purpose.  Please do not distribute
>>this CFV.  If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted
>>to news.announce.newgroups.  Distributing pre-marked or otherwise
>>edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud.
>>When in doubt, ask the votetaker.
>>
>>OFFICIAL SOURCES OF THE CFV:
>>
>>* The copy which was posted to news.announce.newgroups
>>* Any copies which were sent to mailing lists *by* *the* *votetaker*
>>* A copy received from the votetaker's automated mailserver
>>
>>To obtain a copy of the CFV from the votetaker's mailserver, send a
>blank
>>email message to .
>>
>>DISTRIBUTION:
>>
>>This Call For Votes (CFV) will be also be sent to the following
>mailing
>>lists:
>>
>>* Stormfront Mailing List 
>>* Resistlist 
>>
>>--
>>Michael Handler 
>>Usenet Volunteer Votetakers (UVV)
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